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in the republican party. but starting with john mccain in 2008, i'm not suggesting john mccain was a racist, but john mccain had no association with black people whatsoever. pretty much like mitt romney this year. i know they always find some black people to trot out and say yes, this is somebody i know, but the fact of the matter is if you look at his career, you look at the aides that he had when he was a senator, all of the things in terms of his history and john mccain's family comes from mississippi, he had no association with black people whatsoever. when john mccain ran for the presidency in 2008, black people were not even on his radar. after president obama got elected, there was a belief -- and i would argue a not necessarily true belief among republicans that the african- american vote was no longer -- was basically off limits, that it was not possible to appeal to african-americans. that was a mistake. i believe that the rise of a lot of publicly expressed racist sentiments and the attitudes that go with them came from the fact that a lot of republicans all of a sudden decided t
. and the most unlikely love couple of all in d.c., john mccain and lindsey graham got together to -- well, to say a lot of ignorant stuff. let's begin with john mccain's clip if we can. dan, this is john mccain on -- john mccain by the way who voted to approve condoleezza rice as secretary of state. talking about susan rice. here's the clip. >> susan rice should have known better and if she didn't know better, she's not qualified. she should have known better. i would do everything in my power to block her from being the united states secretary of state. she has proven that she either doesn't understand or she is not willing to accept evidence on its face. >> john: that was the man who thought sarah palin was qualified to be president talking about someone who doesn't understand. now not to be outdone senator lindsey graham, the most interesting of all southern republicans i would say came out a few hours later and took a break from his momentarily bouts of sanity to say this. >> die trust her in two ways. if she didn't kn
for coming on. >>> it's not business, it's personal. that public dispute between john mccain and president obama over susan rice. could it be mccain hasn't gotten over the 2008 election. we're sort of stacking up revenge here on the other side. i got nothing more to say about that. >>> plus spy fall, what we're learning about the affair that brought down the cia chief and perhaps derailed the promoths of the top general. besides complaining about how president obama won re-election by giving away gifts to minorities and young voters, wonder what mitt romney has been doing since the election? david letterman has an idea. >> today mitt romney drew a picture of the house of representatives chamber and gave a state of the union address in front of it. >> and the fourth new entitlement, obama care, we'd repeal that one. >> we have a few more of those sugar plums in the "sideshow." >>> plet me finish with a book about when we had a hero for a president. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> time to bust another 2012 lest myth. the idea took hold that african-americans would not be as f
he's at 60.6. his margin over john mccain was 9.9 million. this us date was 2.9. he had a 7.2% margin over john mccain and a 2.1% margin over mitt romney. he becomes the first president getting a smaller share of the vote than he got in his first term. jim me seasonna gave a series of interviews where they said we are not going to be able to get where we need to get vick fly by talking about what you have done and painting a pretty picture of what you achieved. we have to go after romney's wealth, business experience and character with early advertising to drive up his negatives. this is a grand bet it's a dangerous strategy. because fit doesn't work out we won't have enough time or money to try something else. the president said go do it. they proceeded to slam romney in the summer. and what we have is a disappearing electric rats. we'll have 10 million people vote in 2012 than 2010. this is the first election in four previous elections where the share of the voting age population will decline, not increase. megyn: there has been soil searching in the republican party to diagnose the
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in the republican party, known. i'm not suggesting that john mccain was a racist but john mccain had no association of black people whatsoever. the press like mitt romney this year. i know they always try out some black people that facility i know. and his age career he had with his ascent toward all the things in terms of his history and john mccain's family comes from mississippi by john mccain had no association with black people whatsoever. so when he ran for the presidency in 2008, black people were not even on a radar. at the present obama got elected, could there isn't a not necessarily true belief by republicans that the african- american vote was no longer -- was basically off-limits. i believe the rise of publicly- expressed racist sentiments and the attitudes that go with them came from the fact that a lot of republicans decided black people are off limits. so we don't have to appeal to black people. karl rove into a dozen forethought," i know black people and i know there are lettuce. i know they don't like the marriage. let's go to ohio and go to churches and african-american leaders a
by senators john mccain, kelly ayotte and lindsey graham close to target the president's staff, specifically the potential nomination of ambassador susan rice as secretary of state. >> we will do whatever's necessary to block the nomination that's within our power as far as susan rice is concerned. >> you don't end up on every single major sunday show without affirmatively putting yourself out there of wanting to carry forward a message on behalf of the administration. >> i don't trust her. the reason i don't trust her is because i think she knew better and if she didn't know better she shouldn't be the voice of america. >> president obama is far from conceding defeat. channeling his own inner mama grizzly. he bears his teeth. >> i'm the president. and i'm always responsible. the suggestion that anybody in my team, whether secretary of state, or u.n. ambassador, anybody on my team, would play politics or mislead when we've lost four of our own, governor, is offensive. >> yesterday, the claws were out. >> if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should g
in your view if at all? >> i think it's hard because john mccain of course had a very good relationship with the press and it's not like anyone pulled any punches at the end of that campaign either. so i think once you get to a certain level that sort of erodes. but early on i think it would have been a lot easier for him. >> but we felt like we one-day understood john mccain as somebody who rode around on his bus back in the 2000 campaign. i'm not sure journalists felt they really got mitt romney. brief thought on that? >> yeah, the fact is john mccain, reporters ran out of questions to ask him. i mean, he would talk for -- >> eight-hour rolling press conferences. >> eight hours. and i don't think anybody will do that again in the age of twitter. >> well, maybe they should. if they're secure in their own skin, if a politician is secure in his own skin and they can sit down and talk to reporters about what he really believes, okay? over and over, day after day. i think it helps him out in the end. >> a lot of republicans now want to be interviewed about the depth of this defeat. not jus
. senators like john mccain and others on the right wing have been trying to have a scandal with the tax against the president's ambassador to the u.n. susan rice. today, the president called and he said, i have had enough. >> let me say specifically about susan rice she's done exemplary work. she represented the united states and our interests in the united nations with skill and professionalism and toughness and grace. as i have said before, she made an appearance at the request of the white house in which she gave her best understanding of the intelligence that had been provided to her. if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. i'm happy to have that discussion with them. but for them to go after the u.n. ambassador who had nothing to do with benghazi and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence she had received and to besmirch her reputation is outrageous. i don't think there is any debate in this country when you have four americans killed, that's a problem. we've got to get to the bottom of it. there needs to b
of 1988, john mccain would have defeated barack obama. the facts are there. if people turn out, if minority voters turnout, republicans have a disadvantage to start with. latino vote, it was just huge. you look at the states, look at florida, colorado, you look at nevada, you could even argue iowa, but state after state, the latino vote, if you take it out, the democrats would have lost, even in florida, it was 61-39 including the cubans. cuban-americans are not no longer the majority in florida among latinos, but the younger generations of cuban-americans vote like puerto rican or dominican voters, not the anti-castro parents and grandparents. asian-americans, that was the biggest shift. 75-25 for obama. i remember covering the 2000 race. gore and bush. i think bush won the asian-american vote before september 11th, asian-american was a swing vote leaning republican. yesterday, it was 3-to-1 democratic. urban-rural, it's -- mirror images. it's roughly 60-40, and demographically, which areas are growing, the urban areas or rural america? you wouldn't want to bet on rural americ
, and people believed him. did it work? hum, i don't think so. >> yeah how did that work? >> i don't think john mccain got elected, did he? >> no, i don't remember him winning. >> and i don't remember this guy -- mitt romney getting elected either. so then karl rove comes up with this american cross roads idea. of course the supreme court gave him a big give in citizens united, so they could raise this millions and millions and millions of dollars, and support all right-wing candidates and throw them into senate races, house races and the presidential race. and then karl rove goes on and some of the stuff he said -- he was so wrong. it's unbelievable. the "washington post" yesterday had a -- a whole series of quotes about how wrong they were -- and he is a commentator on fox news which is a huge conflict. he is out there raising money defeat obama, and then he has out there supposedly a political pundit and then he writes for the wall street journal. he wrote in the final days of this presidential race, the polls favor mitt romney. no they don't. no they didn't. he was again
the edges. boy, running against and john mccain in 2008, barack obama did well among those groups in those states. he did well in iowa. he overperformed. >> i'm guessing it is bigger in 2012 than in 2008. >> at the performance is a little bit overstated. dig into the data. it is not quite impressive as the polls might have suggested. i had to brag a little bit. i was having a fierce twitter debate over the nature of ohio. nate's model has predicted in this election and had a 49.6% chance to beat ohio in the electoral vote. the tipping state was colorado. where did romney's 47% remarks get him? 47% of the vote. >> we talk about how non-whites are growing, particularly among latinos. unions are shrinking. for the 6% of voters were from the union households. this ticket was only 18 percent. i do think that you are right. it will be more about the sun belt than the rest. >> non college white union members. this is pretty striking. >> let's have another question. in the front. >> you spoke about the long-term trends of declining voter turnout and increased polarization and the emotionalism of v
fewer votes than john mccain, and it looks like he's 2 million fewer, i would have been dumbfounded. >> dumbfounded. is all this a sign that republicans are now ready to meet in the middle on issues like immigration and taxes? will they move faster on immigration? you can join our conversation on twitter. you can find me at @tamronhall and my team at @newsnation. having you ship my gifts couldn't be easier. well, having a ton of locations doesn't hurt. and my daughter loves the santa. oh, ah sir. that is a customer. let's not tell mom. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. fedex office. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] don't just reject convention. drown it out. introducing the all-new 2013 lexus ls f sport. an entirely new pursuit. [ male announcer ] why do more emergency workers everywhere trust duracell...?? duralock power preserve. locks in power for up to 10 years in storage. now...guaranteed. duracell with duralock. trusted everywhere. >>> welcome back. how to rebrand the gop is the subject of a new series of polls and focus groups and outreach meetings conducted by
votes are clustered in those big metropolitan areas. john mccain in 2008, excuse me, barack obama in 2008 won the 28 congressional districts with 80% of the vote or more and john mccain ten by that margin. that gives democrats a lot of votes in the big states, but it also means that there's not that many democrats in the chase and districts. this time obama carried the same number of states with that percentage and romney may have gotten that percentage in one or two districts in utah. maybe it's time for political scientists and abundance to rule out another rule about locks, who has a lot on which part of the government before that rule becomes obsolete. thank you. >> thank you. now tell us about the republican party. >> i think the temptation for the republicans is in any case with going through the stages of grief, first its bid to be engaged in denial and that is what you saw with the "the washington times" piece that was read today. it's understandable. it's the human response, but it would be very smart for the republicans to get further along in those stages and not stay i
and mitt romney did not beat john mccain's totals in this election. both of those numbers are absolutely extraordinary. it says a lot about the romney campaign and its inability to excite its own base and get people out to vote for its own side. i don't disagree -- >> wasn't anger enough? >> it certainly -- i think it was disgust wt both sides. i think there were a large portion of voters who decided they weren't going to vote for obama and they didn't feel comfortable with romney for a variety of reasons. i agree with the basic prem m is that going forward in the future we need to be more culturally diverse as a party. we need to go after different segments of the population because obviously the country is changing and we all get that. in this particular election, there was another story being told. barack obama was there for the taking. we could have beat him. we just had to have john mccain numbers and we didn't have it. >> who was your candidate that would have done better than romney? >> jeb bush. >> jeb bush. interesting. you're sort of an establishment republican. >> yeah, of cou
the democratic -- demographic reason is democratic votes are clustered in the big metropolitan areas. john mccain -- excuse me, barack obama in 208120 congressional bishops with 80% of vote more. john mccain 10 by the margin. against democrats a lot of votes in those big states, but it also means there's not that many democrats into chasing districts. this time obama probably cared about the same number of states with a percentage. romney may have gotten that percentage and where to districts in utah. so maybe it's time for a political scientist and as political pundits to roll out another go about ochs, who has a lock on which part of the government before that will, too, becomes obsolete. thank you. >> now and it will tell us about the republican party. >> i think the temptation for republicans, going through any case, is going to be engaging in denial. and that's what you saw with the "washington times" piece that karlyn today. it's understandable. it's the human response. but it would be very smart for the publicans to get farther along from those stages and not stay in the denial stage very
the republican party from behind. when you support comprehensive immigration reform like john mccain did but then refuse to do it when president obama is in the white house, when you have the nominee of the party, mitt romney, saying people should self deport. so their house and go back to mexico. you cannot win latino votes when you make war against them . what againstin california has happen nationwide. -- what has happened in california happened nationwide. i am not sure how much credit arthur davis has. i was disappointed when he left the party and supported mitt romney. i did not buy his reasons for doing so. i would disagree with him on this. i do not think republicans should write off the african- american party at all. they are talking about jobs, improving the economy. if they are willing to save medicare and social security are going to stay, they can get african-american votes. to write them off as arthur davis suggested i think would be a colossal mistake. host: we will get to your calls in just a moment. you can also send us a comment on facebook or twitter. what surprised y
at this. guest: that is one to watch. john mccain was very critical of the citizens in that this case, and he was working with democrats in this congress, and it was postponed with the election. hearing more from republicans, even the head of the finance committee, they're not fans of the democrat's fix, but there could be some movement in the next congress. whether it succeeds we will see. host: the democratic fixed is the disclosure act? guest: yes. guest: i have for democrats concerned about what karl rove was doing, and what koch brothers were doing, but democrats did pretty well when it comes to this alternative funding. it was very powerful at the end and made a difference. we now have a system where both parties do pretty well. of all of the tweets the one that made me laugh was david chiefd, the president's campaign officer, who said there would be a lot of billionaires' at their refund window. host: ray, seneca falls, new york. republican caller. caller: i have an interesting theory. let's make term limits for congress and the senate, then we will get people interested in hel
states, republicans carried one. he basically one what john mccain won, plus indiana, which nobody considers a swing state, plus north carolina. you go one out of 11, then you have the senate tossup. republicans lost nine out of 10. i think senator cornyn and all the folks -- one of the more talented campaign committees i have ever seen. two cycles in a row, they have had the worst loss. when your party nominate people that are so exotic that they have little or no chance of winning general elections, that ought to be very winnable, that is not something campaign committee can do anything about. you have party bosses from washington dictating who are candidates are going to be, or do you allow yourself the diversity of a bunch of wackos? >> a whole bunch of these republican governors were elected in 2010, which was against barack obama, the stimulus, the takeovers. no matter how partisan the state, they will send the opposite party to the state mansion, but they will not send them to d.c. even bob ehrlich one in maryland, and democrats get elected governor -- sullivan in wyoming, s
% of those who identified as independents to john mccain's 40%. this was a group were focused on. the candidates were trying to reach those independents. you're saying not all the independents are truly independent? guest: they mean a lot of things. some people mean, i really go back and forth, sometimes i vote democratic, republican. that is one group. other people meehan i consistently vote for one party or the other, but i do not think of myself as a member of that party. you really have to distinguish between help people identify themselves, and how people actually vote, which is not the same thing. host: moses is from new york and the democratic line. caller: i want to comment on the latino vote. i know you had a guest before. how latinos perceive romney as being an interventionist .andidate invading countries, like the dominican republic and panama latinos do not consider socialism as evil. if you hear comments from right wing in radio hosts and fox news, socialism is considered evil. in america, with fidel castro, it is very popular -- host: were you expecting the high tur
of the principles that john mccain espoused, and even president bush. do you think that's the first place they'll go to build consensus with the president. >> that's a natural place to go because it's in their self interest to not lose roughly 12%, 15% of the electorate as they move forward. they'll lose texas. they'll lose virginia and north north carolina. florida. that's a formula politics, as you know, you want to grow. you don't want to do things that shrink. that's an area that is incumbent on the president to give a framework. i say this as a democrat. democrats shouldn't just talk about this issue as we're better than republicans. i mean, democrats need to be very affirmative about how important the latino population is to our country. they did great things day in an day out. they're a great part of our future, and it has to be more than hey we're better than the republicans. this is a very important constituency and we need to do right by them. >> gavin: what about gay marriage. there are some final counts in washington state but the three states--two states affirmative and the one that pul
it that in a second. do you expect the party to rally around some of the principles that john mccain or former president bush was willing to go in terms of comprehensive reform, do you think they'll go there with the president? >> it's natural place to look at because it's in their political self interest to not lose roughly 70% of the 10% of the electorate. if they continue than path they'll lose texas, north carolina florida. that's a formula in politics, you want to grow. you don't want to shrink. that is incumbent on the president to provide a framework. democrats should not think about this issue as we're better than republicans. democrats need to look at how important the latino population is to our country day in and day out, they are a part of our future. it needs to be more than we're better than the republicans, and this is a big ton consistent constituency and we need to support them. >> gavin: the gay marriage, two states affirmative and then they pull back in minnesota because of draconian legislation. you were in the thick of it. this is toxic even in our own party. >> look, you
million less vote this is year than he did in 2008. mitt romney got almost 3 million votes less than john mccain did. this election, you could come up with a lot of arguments as to why mitt romney didn't win. i thought he left it all in the playing field. i thought he did as well as he could, given the circumstances. but the truth of the matter is, we couldn't come up with enough votes to win. and if you analyze this election, you can come up with 100 reasons why mitt romney lost. i'm looking towards 2016 and how can we, the gop, continue to be competitive and how can conservatives get their message across. i'm trying to tell you, to echo what patrick said. the first thing you have to do is show up. we didn't show up in the black community. we didn't show up enough in the hispanic community. we dedicated resources too little too late. and we need a long-term plan that dedicates enough resources to become competitive, knock on the door and do the things that we need to in the community. my comments about what won or lost this election are different than the comments about what's required t
hill watching those who have lost a big election come back. you had john mccain four years ago, john kerry eight years ago. so it is different because during the weeks after he was put on the romney ticket, there was a lot offed a you'll lation for paul ryan here. it is different now. and he comes back and we expect he'll get his same position as the head of the house budget committee. that requires a special waiver because he's had that job for the maximum amount of time. he's still well-regarded by his republican colleagues and i think you get a sense that he's been through a challenging election period. we'll have to see how much of a public posture he wants to have going forward, and so ryan is back, but we don't yet have a measure of how influential he will be. >> what sway then, kelly, do you think he has in the fiscal cliff negotiations? >> everything we're getting a sense of is that this will be a negotiation that at least on front stage will be between speaker boehner and president obama. and so boehner is certainly influenced by ryan's knowledge of the budget, but i don't t
there was john mccain was too moderate. our principles weren't on the ballot. they got some validation in 2010 when the tea party took over the republican party and used fear, hatred and anger to ride to a midterm electoral win. in a presidential year when the whole country is turning out it's a different matter. the problem for the republican party is as the establishment says, we are to come back to the center, where the country is, back to policies that make sense to people, is they've spent so long using that fear, riding that fear, that hatred, that, you know, that fear of the other, to electoral wins that they've trained their base that this is where they need to be. so, it's going to be very hard, republican members of congress are going to be looking over their shoulder, wondering if they're going to be primaried by a tea party group, and it's going to be hard for -- they will have to be politically courageous, something they're not good at doing, to come back to the center. >> now, steve, the base, where is the base? because if the base is the tea partyers, wouldn't they in some ways
yesterday at the same four years ago if we had the electorate of 1988, john mccain would've defeated barack obama. so the facts are there. if people turn out, if minority voters turn out, republicans have a disadvantage to start with. latino vote which is huge. look at florida, colorado, nevada. you could even argue iom. state after state, the latino vote if you take it out, democrats would've lost. even in florida, 61, 39. cuban-americans are no longer the majority in florida among latinos, but also the younger generation of cuban-americans in setting puerto rican or dominican latinas. they're not voting that the anti-castro parents and grandparents. asian-americans is a big issue. 75, 25 for obama. i remember covering the race. bush actually won the asian-american vote before september 11, asian-american vote was the swing vote leading republican. yesterday was three to one democratic. urban rural are mere images and is roughly 6040. demographically which areas, you wouldn't want to bet on rural america, the population center going ahead. young and old. it is again the youngest voters are
you support comprehensive immigration reform like john mccain did but then refuse to do it when president obama is in the white house, when you have the nominee of the party, mitt romney, saying people should self deport. so their house and go back to mexico. you cannot win latino votes when you make war against them . what againstin california has happen nationwide. -- what has happened in california happened nationwide. i am not sure how much credit arthur davis has. i was disappointed when he left the party and supported mitt romney. i did not buy his reasons for doing so. i would disagree with him on this. i do not think republicans should write off the african- american party at all. they are talking about jobs, improving the economy. if they are willing to save medicare and social security are going to stay, they can get african-american votes. to write them off as arthur davis suggested i think would be a colossal mistake. host: we will get to your calls in just a moment. you can also send us a comment on facebook or twitter. what surprised you about the election? guest:
conservatives. eventually, truth will out. in 2008, you could have run carrot top in a thong against john mccain and he probably would have won. the fact that barack obama won after all the misinformation and lying, makes me proud that the americans saw through the lies. people stood in line for hours. >> the jeep ads backfired. >> stephanie: this is going to be the difference in the conservative and liberal media. they're going to tell you you're stupid and lazy. we're going to tell you you're smart and pretty and we love you. >> oh, god! >> stephanie: i just, i'm saying i think people would rather listen to a happy lappie message. >> that's why i like listening to your show. i don't listen to them, they're not entertaining. >> stephanie: john fugelsang is saying you're wicked smart and startlingly beautiful. >> too bad we're not backstage in a dressing room. >> he likes to kiss himself. >> preparing for shows is what i meant to say. >> stephanie: by the way john fugelsang threw up just before the show and still knocked them dad, looking beautiful. still knocked it out of the park. see you tomo
in 2008 because he thought it was be spiking the ball and disrespectful for john mccain. >> yes. >> stephanie: we were saying what a dichotomy. the president crying actual tears for these kids that worked their hearts off for them. and mitt romney all he thinks of is to cut off their credit cards. >> i enjoy fire peopling. >> you hadn't heard that john about the credit cards? >> no. but it is really really shocking. and again, it's like they didn't know, because fox news loves to brag how they are the top-rated news channel but if that means that having the most ratings gives you the most credibility, that spongebob has more credibility than fox news. more americans watch spongebob than fox news. >> stephanie: yeah, and we were saying it is all about content in this new age, even as we know what they have done on radio, we were on a teeny tiny amount of stations compared to the right-wingers, but people are listening on line on stitcher on satellite they are podcasting. that's the thing you can't stop information in this day and age. for instance, they talked
. >> stephanie: john mccain -- he is such a angry bitter little elf about losing. there was no viable military option to deflect sporadic attacks in a city full of people sympathetic to the us. really, you are going to drop a bomb -- >> well, in rambo what happened was -- >> stephanie: okay. armed drones were not in the area, air strikes without intelligence posed a huge risk of killing americans and civilians. last week the cia managers told officials benghazi not to go to the aid -- oh, they gave a stand-down order? >> no. [ buzzer ] >> stephanie: when the annex itself was under attack officials refused to pass along request for military assistance and one of the officers had laser sited pointing at the attackers. they responded actually within 25 minutes, jim. >> uh-huh. >> stephanie: this is just a completely -- >> they had sharks with laser beams -- >> it's a gish-gallop. >> stephanie: yeah. the attack was over before the forces could be employed. there were no orders to anybody to standown. and another senior intelligence official, armed droneings were not near
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